Tuesday, December 6, 2011

When can we begin impeachment proceedings against John Boehner?

Does this question seem ludicrous?





The conservatives were asking the same thing about Obama on November 5, 2008.|||It would be an enormous mistake for the Republicans to try and impeach this President. With all of the people that are out of work this is the thing they put on their agenda as the most important thing. I know that the Republicans don't care about the poor or the middle class but surely they are not so stupid as to try something like that.





%26lt;%26lt;"Boehner - supports the CONSTITUTION... and the American Person."%26gt;%26gt; BOeNER supports lining his pockets with lobbyist money and having a dozen martinis for lunch. Republicans don't care about people. They care about shipping their jobs overseas so that the corporations can make another dollar more. I wish we could outsource congressman B-oner's job to India. I want to see him cry again.|||Not ludicrous at all, we will start impeachment proceedings on him exactly one hour after obama's impeachment is finalized. Deal?|||Screw impeachment. Where are they jobs? When are they going to fix the economy?|||Beginning early 2011.|||Speaking of 2008 and Obama. WE WON GET OVER IT|||now start the sign up campaign|||He's not a real American he's from Oompa loompa land.|||After looking at the dems losing the house, damn near losing the senate and picked up over 11 governorships, ( 3 more but the verdict is still out ) you're actually calling 150,000,000 Americans idiots if you think Bush is to blame for what the dems did.





------%26gt; You must be really smart. Smarter than 1/2 the country who seem to have a differing opinion than yours.|||There's a bit of a difference...





Obama was elected - and immediately started his assault on the constitution and the American PERSON.





Boehner - supports the CONSTITUTION... and the American Person.|||Go for it. Just don't think you will have any grounds to do so unless you are from Ohio and he is your senator. Maybe Pelosi will come out of the closet where she keeps her broom to help you.|||you can start now. good luck.|||Real mature. You Dems never learn, you should take a lesson from your submissive leader. He lost a bit of his arrogance today.|||Ever hear of the house judiciary commitee, there sunshine? Guess what?!


That's right! There's going to be some things that need airing out.|||Tit for tat mentality doesn't really help your cause.|||I'd like you to point me to an example of a "conservative" saying that on November 5th, 2008.|||When you get the House back!|||Good luck with that, Alan Grayson............I mean, Sadcat.|||liberal brilliance at its best....

Legally, how soon can impeachment proceedings be initiated?

Do we have to wait 'till after the inauguration? This stuff takes a long time to get going. Would Obama overturning the defense of marriage act be enough to get him impeached?|||Grounds for impeachment are disscussed in Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution. It states “the President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and on conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” So cannot stress this matter Obama does not need to be accused or convited of a LEGAL issue, notice the ambiguity of the list of impeachable offenses. The conviction does not need to be from a court of justice, it is a conviction from senate. (This is why many in Sen and the House are cautious to suggest impeachment, being anything is an impeachable offense. It is at the ruling of Senate. PS Palin for Sen!)





So a simple perjury implication or quest of his character (say if he suggests to meet with terrorists for coffee or to discuss anything without any predetermined conditions for example) is required. The catch is a 2/3 vote in the House of rep is required (th eHOS has power of impeachment), but the actuall trial is held by Senate.





The issue we face is the American public has been misinformed allowing both to be heavily weighted by Dems. Also, even though Mr Obama said "... I will change the old way of politics..." He has practiced this during his campaign and obviously is depending upon it to hold his power for at least this coming 4 yrs.





I suggest if you truly wish impeachment process to begin, write a letter to you public officals as often as you can to support this cause. They do listen... good luck to all of us ...|||Impeachment requires "high crimes or misdemeanors". It has only ever happened twice, both times for entirely political reasons on trumped up charges. Impeachment is like indictment. After that you have a trial in the senate. In both cases, Clinton and Johnson, the president was acquitted and finished out his term.





The only time impeachment has ever come close to happening for legitimate reasons was Nixon, but he resigned rather than being the first president ever impeached and convicted, which was very likely to happen.





Legally, there is no time limit, but Obama would have to be accused of something illegal while in office. No, overturning the defense of marriage act would not be enough, as it is legal to change the law, so long as he does it in the appropriate manner. I hope he does this, but I'm not sure he's got the support in congress. I don't expect it to be high on his priority list if he even wants to.|||No, he actually had to have done something wrong. Get over it people, Obama won and he's gonna do a great job!





Why do you guys keep saying stuff like "lets impeach him" or "let's assasinate him" when the man hasn't DONE ANYTHING WRONG!!





You make me sick|||Impeachment is for "high crimes and misdemeanors". He would have to commit a crime.





He has no right to "overturn" an act of Congress. If Congress overturned it, he could sign it.|||We can and should have impeached Bush long ago. What laws do you claim that Obama has broken? How can a president elect overturn a law? What is your source? The Fakes News Network?|||Dude, impeachment comes as a result of illegal activity. Besides, the Dems control congress... it ain't gonna happen.|||Just chill. Obama cannot overturn DOMA. In fact, he is in favor of DOMA.





Pay attention!|||Legally you have to prove a felony to even think about impeachment.|||wait until he really screws us up then do it, if that fails use force

Is there any way to get a president removed other than impeachment?

i mean, like can the people just start a petition or something, and with enough signatures get a president removed, just because they don't like him or something?





or does it have to be impeachment for a crime no matter what?|||you can vote him out after 4 yrs,impeachment or assasinate|||No Impeachment is the only way. You can't get rid of the President of the United States just because you don't like him. The majority voted him in office and majority rules!!!|||Yes, an election. The next one is in about 3 years. But he stands a chance of getting 4 more years.|||You could try voting, but since President Obama is about six times as popular as W, your odds are not good.

Please give reasonable answer to if Speaker Pelosi should have taken Impeachment off the table?

Please , no snarky answers to bash libs, dems, etc. Just a simple question as to whether Speaker Pelosi subverted the Constitution by taking Impeachment off the table.|||When did she take impeachment off the table? And for whom? And for what? Impeachment is the Constitutional responsibility, not the privilege, of the Congress. Congress must impeach for treason, high crimes, perjury, if these offenses are committed by persons in high office. It is not an option. It is a Constitutional responsibility. Only by exercising this authority are these offenses deterred, and, when committed, only impeachment and whatever criminal prosecutions are appropriate enable the American people to stand aside from the perpetrators and show we are a nation of laws and not of strongmen and gangsters. Failure to impeach is an endorsement of the behavior, in the name of the American people whom the Congress is elected to represent. Failure to represent the people is cause for recall of that member of Congress who so transgresses. www.garyeandrews.com|||You have tohave commited a crime, there was no crime, next question.|||Because, and I hate to say this, Pelosi is smarter than the idiots yelling for impeachment...she knows no crimes were committed and did not see the point in wasting our time with it...but they did waste their time with Major League Baseball and Steroids...our Tax dollars hard at work...you should take time to read the Constitution...it may help you, because it says High Crimes and Misdemeanors...just because you don't like the President does not mean he can be impeached...if they would have impeached Bush, they would have had to bring Bill back and charge him too since he use the same Intel to bomb Iraq on a weekly basis...and it was the Democratic President's Intel they were using and they themselve had been parroting Clinton for over half of the 90's...|||I can not believe I am saying this, and I didn't know she did it, but...





That is the right thing to do. The President has to break the law to be impeached.





She did the right thing. A lot of Bush haters think he can be impeached because they disagree with what he has done. The fact is he has done nothing "legally" wrong, and she knows it.





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The Constitution provides that the President"... shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

How and when will Obama initiate Bush/Cheney impeachment as promised?

and when is he going to officially that he's a Muslim?|||Sounds like some research may be in order...





I have to give you some credit though, your questions are fair and balanced. You have one from the far left and one from the far right.|||He's a Christian. Anyone who still believes he's a Muslim should A) realise that the accusations are based on nothing but skin colour, and B) realise that there is in fact no evidence whatsoever that his faith is Islam. He's a Christian, which is widely recognised.





...And the Bush/Cheney impeachment was a promise made by Joseph Biden, when he was campaigning for the Democratic Nomination, which he lost. These promises had nothing to do with the Presidential Election since Obama got the nomination instead of Biden, Clinton or Edwards. And the promises have nothing whatsoever to do with Obama, because he never made them.|||and when is he going to officially that he's a Muslim?





(You're missing a verb. Your statement can mean anything -- "deny" or "admit"? Didn't he say countless times he's a Christian? And if he's a Muslim, won't that render the Rev. Wright issue moot? Pretty sure he's Christian. And if not, so what?)





I didn't know he promised to have them impeached. That's new. Heh.


Besides it's too late now, isn't it?





Sorry, can't help but take a facetious tone here. Hard to believe you're serious, so it's hard to take you seriously.|||Well, just another broken promise. But he never said that one, anyway.





But, here we have the usual string of libs / 0 bamanites that blindly defend the chosen one when, if one chose to actually investigate, google 'obama muslim faith' and get 1,400,000 hits. Oh, but I'm sure all that is just lies and smears, right? Yeah, and 2/3 of his cabinet choices are virgin clean politicians, too, right?


Here, you won't even have to type it:


http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+mus鈥?/a>





And another tidbit: http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaReligio鈥?/a>|||He never promised impeachment. It is too late for that, however he very well may appoint a special prosecutor to go after the criminals in the Bush administration.


Both Bush and Cheney have admitted that they authorized torture. Yesterday a judge dismissed charges against the 20th highjacker because he was tortured.|||Oh no, you are upset that a politician made promises and is not keeping them! My heart bleeds buttermilk for you. He has so far broken almost every promise he made:


New people for a new government...Almost all his appointments are former Clinton advisors or veterans of the Democratic party.


Bring our soldiers back home...only the ones already scheduled for leave.


Hang Bush out to dry...not a possibility, nothing he did was illegal, not now not then.|||You remind me of the John Belushi character giving an editorial on Saturday Night Live, starting reasonably enough then devolving into hysteria and foaming at the mouth. Very funny.





It usually took him a couple minutes, but you did it in two sentences.





Kudos, sir, and kudos again!|||Obama never promised that. Know how I know? Because he's a lot smarter than you are, and he realizes that the President has no authority to impeach someone who is no longer holding elected office.





Next time you want to do something like this, do some research.|||These things will occur when the tape of Michelle saying "whitey" is released and when the Supreme Court unanimously holds that Obama is a citizen of Kenya.





In other words, never.|||As promised by who? And for what? You need to look up the reasons a President can be impeached. On top of that, Obama is already saying he can't fulfull his "promises." As if he ever intended to do so.|||Did you study government? They can't be impeached if they are already out of office. They are impeached by the Congress, not the Executive.|||He said he wouldn't impeach Bush and Cheney.





He'll announce he's a Muslim right after you pull your head out of your ***. In other words, it's not gonna happen.|||Impeachment?


They have to be in power to be impeached moron!|||I heard him say a lot of things. He never said he would impeach anyone and since he isn't a Muslim, he won't 'officially' proclaim he is one.|||He never promised he would impeach Bush/Cheney. Quit making stuff up.|||Obama promised that? I don't remember that, of course he did promise so much I couldn't keep up anymore.|||Obama said on television a couple of weeks ago he would not bring any actions against Bush or Cheney.|||He won't unless he is ready to be impeached and thrown from office before he gets his first taste of White House coffee.|||When did he promise that? and he's not a Muslim.


You sir are a liar.|||How do you impeach someone living as a private citizen who doesn't hold an elected office?|||When did he promise that? No rational intelligent person would make such a promise.|||Gibberish.|||Yawn.





You would think you cons would think of something new for a change.|||I really don't see BUSH III trying to impeach BUSH II, do you?|||Oh brother.|||He never promised that....and he's not a muslim....you're a child.|||never.|||I do not remember that promise? do you have a source?|||Probably right before Obama himself get's impeached.|||Its too late to do either and he never admits to anything without 8 x10 glossies and sworn statements and fbi wire taps|||He won't. It was another empty promise from the empty suit.

Do you think Impeachment should start with the VP ?

How quickly could it be done if started?|||Impeachment takes time to complete but even if it was completed after Bush and Cheney are out of office it should be done. History will show these were the worst president and vice president we have had. If we do nothing it will also show that the American people stood by while these two destroyed our world image, lied to us and took us to war, violated our laws and constitution and all the while we whimpered like kids but did nothing. They need to be removed from office BUT, have you thought about the consequences of their impeachment? Pelosi would become president and I am not sure we would be any better off. History will show we got rid of Bush and Chaney which is a plus but Pelosi can not be a part of the solution. She sounded like a good deal for America but she has turned out to be a flake and incapable of doing anymore than complain.|||No, let's start with the Senate.|||No


It would kep just over a year to do.|||no|||I can't imagine what you think this would accomplish.....just another waste of our elected officials time.|||I do not like our VP, but what high crimes and misdemeanors can we prove him guilty of?|||You would have to have a reason for impeachment. Because you don't like the guy, or you don't like what he is doing, that doesn't count.





Why don't you start this question by stating which law was broken so that impeachment proceedings could begin.|||I don't see any reason to impeach either the Vice President or the President. No one has demonstrated that either has committed a high crime or misdemeanor. One Member of Congress has introduced a resolution calling for the President's impeachment. His name is Dennis Kucinich of Ohio. That resolution was referred to the House Judiciary Committee (the committee of jurisdiction in such matters) by a recorded vote in the House last week. That is where it will die on the vine.


Impeachment and removal of the Vice President from office won't mean that he will be succeeded in office by the current Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi of California. A successor would be named by the President and he would face confimation by the House under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution.


That's how it is done in this republic. It helps to dampen down visceral hatred of any elected official that has no basis in law and also helps to sooth the impatience of those who have no understanding at all of the Constitution!|||Yes, Congress should start immediately on the impeachment proceedings. Cheney's numerous violations of office are indeed very serious crimes, and it is time to drag his criminal activities out of the dark and into the light of day.|||YES! Unquestionably. I only hope that we have the time before he starts yet another war based on lies.|||With less than one year left before the next election and with Xmas adjournment soon a reality,there simply is not sufficient time to start and complete impeachment proceedingds especially with the razor thin Dem majority in the Senate.There is simple NO momentum for impeachment and it would take months to mount such momentum before even starting impeachment proceedings.





While the Republicans had no problem impeaching Clinton for committing the high crime and misdemeanor of lying about having enjoyed oral sex in the oval office,the gutless,spineless ,repulsive ,offensive Democrats led by Palosi have no intension of impeaching Bush for having committed the HIGH CRIME AND MISDEMEANOR of waging an ILLEGAL war of choice all based upon a pack of deliberate filthy/stinking lies that has so far seen the slaughter of over 400,000 innocent Iraqi civilians.





The moral BANKRUPCY of the Democrats and the US public as evidenced by all of this ,is simply disgusting.








That Bush is going to get away with what many REPUTABLE INTERNATIONAL JURISTS are now calling Bush's Iraqi war a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY and for him to get away without being charged as a WAR CRIMINAL is a gross injustice.





http://www.motherearth.org/bushwanted/la鈥?/a>|||Yes, because most of your problems (and Canada's alike) aren't directly related to your President but instead his other half (or in Bush's case his other 3/4). The president gives the order but most of the time the order is given to the VP to give to the people (often lost in translation). Unfortunately though, trying to convict Cheney of something under Bush's rule will be about as easy as convincing Christians that they're wrong. In politics, it's usually "blame it on someone or something else" or "blame it on someone MUCH FARTHER down the ladder". That's why when Bush screws up, the "people" of his Nation will be dead in the water before anyone even THINKS of accusing him.|||yes. The Man is evil.|||CCHHHEEEEEEEEZZZZZZ! Look at all the fertile brains that have no clue, see no clue and wouldn't know one if it hit them in their theories.





WHERE'S YOUR PROOF! Oh, in your fertile mind. Which means your mind is FULL OF IT!|||I think, you should follow the billions of us tax payer's dollars that have been lost, and that search will lead you to an off shore account that will connect you to all the cronies involved, and they should all be put in jail and waterboarded since they think it's not torcher.





Follow the Money !

Why are Americans so afraid of talking about IMPEACHMENT of the President?

We The People have a Constitutional obligation to keep our government in check. That is all but lost!|||Because it causes such damage to the nation that it must be used in only the most compelling circumstances; here, Bush is almost out of office and he is not doing any new things like starting another war that needs to be stopped right away.|||Probably because by now so much deterioration has been caused by ol' Bush and Co. that no one gives a darn anymore since things simply keep getting worse; especially with a new election and president around the corner a few months away it's rather useless to think that after 8 years, 4 months will have a rather large impact. On the other hand everyone's focusing on who they will elect next, hopefully not another Bush advocate, because if so, then I'm with you on impeachment, if it is even a valid matter to bring up and fate does not carry out its course for us then.|||For Bush it is a little late.





This country really doesn't use it.





Two have been impeached, however I have a big issue with the way they use the term. Once Impeached, they are tried in the Senate! No president has ever been convicted, so how could they really have been impeached. To me an Impeachment would mean a conviction and they would have left office. Nixon would have been impeached and convicted!





The Republicans went after Clinton for purely political purposes knowing they were not going to convict him. The Democrats could have done the same to Bush and wasted a lot of time and money, but in the end they knew Bush would never be convicted either. Maybe today, but it is to late!





Bush will get his at the world court.





I did like the way McCain confirmed this country uses torture during the debate! Something we have known about and now it will be up to the World Court to take care of Bush and his cohorts!|||This administration has come up with their own interpretation of Executive Privilege'.





So by their own 'Executive Privilege' they never even have to show up in court should they be brought up on any charges.





After this administration is over, I imagine there will be charges brought against Bush, Cheney, Rove, and the rest. But I wouldn't expect much to come of them.





Nixon wasn't above the law. He had to answer for his crimes. But somehow this Executive Privilege card that they're all playing these days seems to put them out of law's reach.





I don't get it.|||Well, we can talk about it all you like. In fact if you have any proof that President Bush has committed any impeachable offenses then Please call Congresswoman Pelosi. She is dying to get some real evidence.





(415) 556-4862





She will really love to hear from you.





(Gotta love this, Impeach Bush, LOL)|||actually... we the people only have the right to impeach a president if he or she breaks the law, sadly, Bush hasn't.


The only other way to get Bush out of office would be to start a war. Good luck with that.|||I am not when a president doesn't do a good job they should be fired like anybody else and that goes for any goverment official. They do work for us.|||Impeach who? Dont you think if the Democrats had any grounds to impeach Bush they would of by now ?|||Why discuss something that's not gonna happen? |||Funny, they had no problems with trying to do it to Bill. Go figure. Bj %26amp; lie = bad, war crimes %26amp; lies = OK!|||Even the democrat party isn't stupid enough to think this is a good idea.





fs|||impeach for what?...he has broken no laws....(that you can prove)